wiedze usytuowane i ucieleśnienie
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Monika Bobako napisał/a:
Sama Oyewumi pochodzi z Jorubów, z racji znajomości języka i tradycji wie więcej niż zastępy białych antropologów i kolonizatorów. Poza tym siła kolonizacyjnych wpływó w rożnych miejscach była różna, można badać nierównomierne sploty dawnej tradycji i kolonialnych wpływów, ich paradoksalne interakcje.
Jej najsilniejszym argumentem za tym, że społeczeństwo Jorubów opierałao się na poza-genderowej ontologii społecznej jest charakter jężyka Jorubów, w którym w ogóle nie ma rodzajów, nawet terminy określające pokrewieństywo ich nie mają. Na przykłąd terminem mąż określano wszyskich krwenych małżonka kobiety, a więc również jego siostry ciotki, etc. A teza, że to własnie język stabilizuje i utrwala róznicę płci, jest znanan w teorii feministycznej. jeśli tak to przepraszam
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Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 20:42
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Oj, trudno by mi było bronić Hegla . Ale tradycja, o której pisze Agata, jest moim zdaniem cenna, krytyka, podważenie, wcale nie muszą jak u Kartezjusza pochodzić znikąd, mogą pochodzic dokładnie z ucieleśnionego życia, które jest zarazem perspektywą z zewnątrz, jak i z wnętrza. Sandra Harding twierdzi, że właśnie takim podejściom zawdzięczamy rewolucje naukowe. |
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Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 20:44
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Oj, trudno by mi było bronić Hegla . Ale tradycja, o której pisze Agata, jest moim zdaniem cenna, krytyka, podważenie, wcale nie muszą jak u Kartezjusza pochodzić znikąd, mogą pochodzic dokładnie z ucieleśnionego życia, które jest zarazem perspektywą z zewnątrz, jak i z wnętrza. Sandra Harding twierdzi, że właśnie takim podejściom zawdzięczamy rewolucje naukowe.
Dla mnie teoria parrhesii u Foucaulta jest cenna właśnie jako opis "świadomego przeżywania ucieleśnienia". |
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Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 20:48
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dla mnie tez, tu nie ma między nami sporu. Nie widzę jednak powodu dla odrzucania marksizmu po uprzednim uschematyzowaniu go |
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magdalenaO |
Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 20:52
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tylko że u foucaulta to świadome przeżywanie ucieleśnienia przybierało dość drastyczne o ile wiem formy
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Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 20:59
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magdalenaO napisał/a:
tylko że u foucaulta to świadome przeżywanie ucieleśnienia przybierało dość drastyczne o ile wiem formy
i może dlatego jego krytyki są tak przekonujące? żadne tam "sitting on a sofa, doing the revolution"... |
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Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 21:00
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Katarzyna Szumlewicz napisał/a:
dla mnie tez, tu nie ma między nami sporu. Nie widzę jednak powodu dla odrzucania marksizmu po uprzednim uschematyzowaniu go
Ależ moim zdaniem Foucault był marksistą (mam zresztą dowody, że jego własnym zdaniem też . Teoria świadomości klasowej to przecież nic innego, jak przełożenie jednostkowej parrhesii na skalę masy... |
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Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 21:01
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dziekuje i juz sie zegnam i do zobaczenia. Za dwa tygodnie dalszy ciag dyskusji na sesj, ktora poprowadzi Kacha Szaniawska |
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magdalenaO |
Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 21:04
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magdalenaO napisał/a:
tylko że u foucaulta to świadome przeżywanie ucieleśnienia przybierało dość drastyczne o ile wiem formy
i może dlatego jego krytyki są tak przekonujące? żadne tam "sitting on a sofa, doing the revolution"... ale nie nadają się do upowszechnienia
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Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 21:11
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magdalenaO napisał/a:
Agata Czarnacka napisał/a:
magdalenaO napisał/a:
tylko że u foucaulta to świadome przeżywanie ucieleśnienia przybierało dość drastyczne o ile wiem formy
i może dlatego jego krytyki są tak przekonujące? żadne tam "sitting on a sofa, doing the revolution"... ale nie nadają się do upowszechnienia
chyba potrzebuję jakichś argumentów. których krytyk nie da się upowszechnić? koncepcja "skrzynki z narzędziami" daje nam trochę inną opcję upowszechniania krytyki... |
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magdalenaO |
Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 21:25
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Odwoływałam się tu do tekstu Shustermana: http://www.shusterman.net/pdfs/Somaesthetics%20and%20Care%20of%20the%20Self_The%20Case%20of%20Foucault.pdf strona 9
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Dodany dnia 16-04-2009 21:32
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dziękuję, chętnie zajrzę mam trochę inną wizję niż Pani, ale zawsze warto się dowiedzieć czegoś nowego! dobrej nocy i dziękuję za sesję! |
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